Lucky for some

I posted a few weeks ago about our giant black cat, but this more manageable version (well, manageable-ish at 40″ x 60″) has just come up on eBay.

Black Cat National savings poster from eBay

This sleek feline could be yours for just £99.  Ours, meanwhile, has been re-homed at the History of Advertising Trust, to be properly looked after.

Also on eBay at the moment, your choice of pretty much any Shell County poster you want.  Here’s Wiltshire, by Keith Grant, by way of an example.

Wiltshire Shell county poster illustration Keith Grant

But with 22 on offer, you are spoilt for choice.  At £59.99 a go, that could be a nice little earner for the seller.  If they get that of course.  Some very similar ones come up at Onslows tomorrow, so it will be interesting to see what they make.

(These are offered as Buy It Now or Best Offer, so might go for less.  Am I the only person who is regularly tempted by Best Offer to make a really low punt, just in case they say yes? Or is it a universal urge?)

Mr Benjamin, is this poster a copy?

Exhibits A and B for today’s argument come from eBay.

This is a London Transport poster by Abram Games from 1968.

Abram Games London Transport poster repro

Except it also isn’t.  Here’s the description from the listing itself.

“Sightsee London” by Abram Games 1968. This is an authentic LT poster printed by Sir Joseph Causton & Sons in 1971 for sale in the LT shop and carries the line “this is a reproduction of a poster designed for London Transport” – it is not a recent reprint.

So, I don’t want to buy it because it says all over the bottom that it’s a reprint.   An old reprint, true, almost as old as the original poster, but still a copy.

There’s another one too, a rather natty bit of swinging 60s design.

1960s London Transport poster repro

And I’m not going to buy that one either, for just the same reason.

But why should this matter?  It’s still an old poster.  Come to that, why don’t I buy a giclee print of whatever poster I fancy instead of spending time and money in pursuit of the originals?

Mr Crownfolio asked that question the other day, and I didn’t have a good answer.  If we buy posters for the good design and because they are lovely images to have around, a reprint, of any kind, shouldn’t be an issue.  I could have this Lewitt Him for £30 from Postal Heritage Prints,

Lewitt Him post early GPO vintage poster 1941

which is considerably cheaper than the amount we actually paid for an original copy.  And yet I still don’t want it.  Why is that?

There are some relatively straightforward answers, like the thrill of the chase and the bargain, and that the originals will make much better investments.  That’s all true, but there’s more at stake here than that.  And to explain it, I may have to use some theory (but don’t worry, there will be nice pictures as well along the way).

Back in 1936, the critic and writer Walter Benjamin (in an often-quoted and pleasingly short essay called ‘The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction’) argued that the original work of art had an ‘aura’ – its presence, uniqueness, history and associations.  Now this, for me, is what an original poster offers.  Its past life, its direct connection with the artist and their times, its apparent authenticity compared to a giclee print, all of these make a poster more interesting than a later copy.

F K Henrion, Post Office Savings Bank poster, 1944
F K Henrion, Post Office Savings Bank poster, 1944

Seems sensible, but it would have had Benjamin foaming at the mouth with fury.  He believed that even fine art works would lose their aura once high quality printing and photographic reproduction could make them accessible to everyone; while modern creations like films and photographs (and, by implication, posters) would have no aura at all, because there could be no original.

McKnight Kauffer, Explorers Prefer Shell, vintage poster 1934
McKnight Kauffer, Explorers Prefer Shell, 1934

And without an aura, he thought that art would have to change entirely.  Being of a Marxist persuasion, he thought that it would have to be about politics instead of reverence for the individual work.  Which is why he’d be so infuriated by my faffing about, worried about which London Transport posters are original and which are not.  Somehow (the mighty and indistructible powers of capitalism in all probability), we have managed to transfer all of our myths and beliefs about individual art works on to these reproduced, never-original copies.  Benjamin must be spitting tacks.

John Tunnard Holiday School Print 1947
John Tunnard, Holiday, School Print, 1947

The sad thing is, he came quite close to being right.  In a very British, watered-down way, ideas like the ‘School Prints’ series were an attempt to put his theories into practice.  In the late 1940s, fine and avant-garde artists including Henry Moore, Picasso and Braque created lithographs that were designed for reproduction and offered to every school in the country, making the best of modern art available to everyone who wanted it (nice article here if you want to know more).  These artworks were designed to be reproduced, in theory infinite in number, just as Benjamin would have liked them to be.  This should have been art without an aura, easily encountered on the walls of schools and hospitals rather than art galleries, in a political gesture very typical of the egalitarian post-war period.

Michael Rothenstein School Print Essex Wood Cutters, 1946
Michael Rothenstein, Essex Wood Cutters, School Print 1946

But, of course, it didn’t end up as he had hoped; we now collect them, value them, treasure them for their limited availability.  The Henry Moore is worth close on £1000.  If you can get hold of a copy of course.

The School Prints were not alone either.  The late 40s and early 1950s were a Benjamin-esque frenzy of art for all.  Lyons Tea Shops commissioned prints from modern artists between 1947 and 1955 with much the same motivation. (Like the School prints they are now valuable, collectable unique items.  There is a slew of them on offer today at the Christies auction, as mentioned a few weeks ago.)

john nash landscape with bathers lyons print 1947
John Nash, Landscape with Bathers, Lyons print, 1947

And I’ve already blogged about the way that London Transport Shell and the GPO commissioned fine artists and avant-garde designers to design their posters both before and after World War Two with some of the same motivations.  Art was no longer the preserve of the privileged, it needed to be made available to everyone in this new, modern, reproducible world.  All these prints and posters were Benjamin’s theories made flesh.

Night Mail Pat Keely vintage GPO poster
Pat Keely, Night Mail, GPO, 1939

But each and every one of these objects are now unique, collectable, valuable.  They’ve all acquired an aura.  And so I do mind whether or not I get a print, whether my poster was printed in 1968 or 1971.  I am, frankly, a lousy revolutionary.

Two other points to bear in mind.  One is that I used to work in a museum, so there are other reasons for collecting old things as well.  I’ll blog about them one day too, when I’ve articulated what on earth they are.

I also need to admit we’ve bought a couple of these reprints before now. Like this Carol Barker.

Carol Barker London for children vintage poster London Transport 1968

(I’d like to blame this on initial naivete, and some slightly dodgy eBay listings, but I think lack of attention to detail may have had something to do with it as well.  Repeat after me: I must read descriptions more carefully.)

Once again, the reprint is only a few years later than the ‘original’ but it still wrong and we’ll probably sell it on at some point.  Walter Benjamin would be very disappointed in me; I just can’t help seeing auras.

I’m eBay, fly me

Once upon a time on eBay, it was possible to snag a bargain.  Now, everyone knows the value of everything, nothing’s sold at auction and what little you can get is a very expensive Buy It Now.  But I thought I would point you at this Lewitt-Him poster for the simple reason that I haven’t seen it before.

Lewitt Him Pan Am vintage travel poster eBay

Interesting, but I can’t say that I like it enough to pay $500 for it.

Elsewhere you can find this rather nice 1958 BEA poster.

1958 BEA vintage travel poster from eBay

Which also has an interesting story, as it was apparently the winning design in the BEA Christmas poster competition  for 1958.  But once again, at $350, I don’t think I’ll bother.

And finally, a curiosity.  It’s by Royston Cooper – but can this be the same one?

It’s from 1979 and it’s a souvenir from the Gordon Bennett balloon race, a fact which almost makes me think it’s a spoof.  Except who would bother.  Anyway, it failed to sell at £5.99, so I’m sure that if you emailed the seller and asked nicely, it could be yours.  And if anyone can tell me that this really is by Royston Cooper, I’d love to know how and why.

If you have to ask, you can’t afford it

Often, I end up writing about posters on here that I, for one, can’t afford.  Like the Royston Cooper Hastings that I mentioned last week, which is fantastic, but at £1000 a pop, I’m probably never going to own it.  I’ve always rather fancied this 1951 Abram Games design too.

Abram Games vintage british railways poster 1951

But as it was last sighted going for £850 at Morphets, it’s unlikely to be making an appearance on our walls any time soon.

Here, however, is something which puts all of that into perspective.  Something so expensive that they don’t even dare tell you the price.

Perhaps I’d better let them describe it.

This outstanding collection of original vintage posters includes many Countries, all Periods, all Topics, all Styles, and most Artists. For major poster designers represented, see the ARTISTS page. This is an ensemble of finest Graphic Designs, covering Graphic History since its beginnings. It is a unique investment opportunity for Museums, Universities, Corporations or Private to establish or complete a significant collection.

(And I’m sorry, but I can’t help hearing that paragraph spoken by a snappily-dressed Russian meercat.  Simples.)

What they mean is 25,ooo posters.   Although only (only!) 17,000 different ones if you discount the duplicates.  How would you even know which were duplicates if you had that many posters?  I forget what posters we own, and ours all fit under the spare bed.

They look like this.

Kellenberger collection page 2a

And this.

Kellenberger collection  page 5a

And this.

Kellenberger image 10

And so on and so on.

If you want to see the full extent of what you’d get for your un-named price, they have their own website here.

They’re the collection of Eric Kellenberger, a Swiss architect who started collecting posters in the late 1960s as a cost-effective way of providing art for his clients’ walls.  (I seem to remember my own excuse for beginning to buy posters being some similar thing about value for money art; a rationalisation that is blown out of the water by the sheer number of posters that we now own but don’t display.)

fly BOAC middle east vintage travel poster AC 1955

Apart from being rather overwhelmed by its sheer size, I don’t have a lot to say about this, mainly because it’s almost entirely foreign.  So much so that the BOAC poster above (c1955) is the only British one I could confidently identify.  There is also a Jersey one, which I can’t find elsewhere, and another with a Kangaroo urging me to Buy Australian Sultanas, which I can live without.  Both the dog and the kangaroo look a bit threatening, if you ask me.

australian sultanas irish free state bacon

The artist list also mentions Zero, but I can’t see any images.

But it’s probably a good job it’s all foreign, because I doubt I could afford to buy one of these, never mind twenty-five thousand.  Anyone else up for it?

Meanwhile elsewhere on the web, a classic pre-war railway poster is up for auction on eBay.

Speed to the West vintage GWR railway poster 1939 eBay

It falls into the category of picture of a train where they want you to see its workings, which makes it quite valuable, if not generally my cup of tea.  But its auction history tells a little story about perceived value and eBay.

Firstly the seller, posterisland, put it on for Best Offer, with a guide price of £2,250.  Funnily enough, no one bought it.

They probably thought that they were being reasonable, as the poster did go for £2,200 at Morphets (and £1,900, and £1,800; he had three…).  But that was for near-perfect nick; this one is a bit battered.  And it’s on eBay.

Then they tried again, as an auction with a £99.99 start price, but also a £1,750 Buy It Now.  Then someone must have told him something because he took it off again twenty minutes later.

Now it is up for auction again, with a start price of £99.99, no scary Buy It Now price, and it has three bids.  And I suspect it will go quite a bit higher by the time it finishes today.  Although possibly not quite as high as the seller would like.   We shall see.

If you do bid and are disappointed, though, I can offer some consolation.

Speed to the West in Cross stitch

The chance to do it in cross stitch.  Kits available online.  There is nothing I can add to that.

The cut-throat world of poster selling

Not so much a post today as an observation of the minefield which is eBay.

This man, Paulsnumbers, is selling some railway posters.  My favourite is the Bromfield of Swanage:

Bromfield Swanage anchor vintage travel poster from eBay

although I do also quite like this one too:

Wales British Railways vintage poster from ebay

But then I am always a sucker for that kind of lettering.

He clearly disagrees with me as he’s only put these two on for a start price of £290, whereas this Skegness poster is starting at £350

Skegness vintage railway poster from eBay

And this of Weymouth at a somewhat surprising £380.

Weymouth British Railways vintage poster from eBay

I am rather afraid that he is going to be disappointed with all of these.  But then it’s hard to feel that he’s done himself any favours with these listings.

For a while now, I’ve been meaning to write some kind of guide on how to sell a poster on eBay; I’m going to have to start it now, as unfortunately Mr Paulsnumbers not merely broken a couple of these rules but then stamped quite thoroughly on their shattered remains.

The first commandment is Thou Shalt Photograph Thy Posters Very Well, so well in fact that you need to feel that your viewers are thoroughly bored and think you are a rather picky and unappealing person.  But if I’m going to spend over £200 on eBay (doesn’t happen very often, believe you me), I’d like to think that I’ve seen every potential fold, stain, tear and blemish that a poster has, so that I know what I’m getting myself into.  A single blurry and reflective photo of a framed poster doesn’t quite do that for me.  (I’ve also done him a few favours with the cropping here; on the original pictures I got to find out more about his wallpaper and curtains than I strictly needed to know).

The second rule is, don’t start your prices too high, as it just puts people off.  I don’t quite know why the psychology of this works (any suggestions?), but it definitely does.  Perhaps, as I put my £300 bid on, I like to think that there’s a chance that I might get it for a bargain, then get psyched into spending more than I meant.  This probably applies to all auctions, but it’s particularly important on eBay, because your start price determines your listing fees too, so you’ll pay over the odds for starting higher than you have to.  Mr Crownfolio and I tend to start most of our posters on at £9.99; the prices almost always go up to about what we’d hoped.

Thirdly, it’s not often the case that you’ll get the highest price on eBay.  I’ve only been able to track one of these posters down in an auction, and that’s the Skegness one, which sold for £375 at Christies in 2007.  I don’t think the price will have gone up since then (see ramblings, passim) either.  But then there are always some exceptions, so perhaps he’ll be lucky.

We shall see.  In the spirit of information I should also tell you that he’s selling a few film posters (at similar fuzziness and prices) should you be interested.  More bizarrely, he’s also selling batteries, razor blades and toothbrush heads.  Go figure.

Update – 6/4.  Not one of the posters was sold; quite a few of the razor blades and toothbrushes did.

Shine a light

This was sold on eBay on Friday.

Hans Schleger London Transport vintage poster

From 1944, it is a lovely piece of Hans Schleger/Zero in prime linen-mounted condition.  Mr Crownfolio and I did have rather deluded hopes of picking it up for a pittance, seeing as it was being sold in the States.  But it went for nearly £250 – unsurprisingly – which means that I can bring myself to tell you that the same seller has another one from the series on offer this week.

Hans Schleger ww2 vintage blackout poster london transport

In a way, I’m not really upset that we didn’t get the first poster.  It’s a classic, but I’m not sure I like it enough (certainly not £250 of enough).  Would it ever get framed and hung on the wall?  I don’t think so.

One of the reasons is that it may be a classic World War Two London Transport poster, but I’m not sure it’s a classic Schleger.  His posters are usually either a bit stranger, or at very least a bit wittier, like this GPO poster from just a year or two later (known in our house as the ‘Prawn Chef’).

Hans Schleger Zero GPO Posting before lunch poster

I wonder if there is a reason why his London Transport posters are so sensible.  Because the other thing that has struck me about the two offered on eBay is just how much they resemble other designers’ work on the same themes – and how much they all resemble each other.

Here’s Tom Eckersley on the other side of the question – reminding bus drivers to stop when they are hailed in the blackout.

Tom Eckersley London Transport vintage WW2 blackout poster

And also reminding the drivers to save rubber.

Tom Eckersley WW2 London Transport poster save rubber

While James Fitton (whose work really does deserve more appreciation than it gets) informs the travelling public that they too can help save this precious wartime commodity.

James Fitton Save Rubber poster London Transport WW2

And finally, we’re pretty much back at the beginning again, as Fitton also tells us how not to flag down a bus during the blackout.

James Fitton blackout London Transport WW2 poster

Two things strike me from this series.  One is what a great designer James Fitton was, in particular for his luminous use of colour.  His posters easily stand up to the work of both Eckersley and Schleger.

The other – which was the thought that started all of this off – is that, for such a diverse set of designers, the results do have more in common than I would expect.  This is mainly in the way that they’ve all used a simplicity of technique, each poster illustrating the issue fairly literally with no visual puns or distracting images.  I wonder whether, somewhere in the heart of the London Transport wartime archives, there is a memo which says: This is war.  And safety.  So don’t let the designers get away with any of their clever-clever stuff.  Oh, and on the way out, make sure you give them an airbrush.  Perhaps I should write to the London Transport Museum and ask.